Louise Campbell-Anthony: Ow.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I guess I should change my name.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Let me change my name.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Send me over,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Your document that you had sent me before.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'm gonna screen share here. I'm gonna send over what I've been working on.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Here just recently.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oops, oops. So today is May 26, 2026.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Rocky, Tamara, and myself are here, going over ideas of how to… how we're going to go about approaching creating a county assembling guidebook, handbook, however it comes out to be.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: being we settled on Guidebook.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I just prefer that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I do too, I just didn't…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, coming up with the right words for me is sometimes not good, so…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's more, you know… Down to whatever. See if I can find it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Guide, we're counting. Okay, here we go, this one here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Here… You want me to just email it to you?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You can put it in the chat, I can download it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's all I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put it in the chat right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, can I be sent? It is currently in use. Oh, let me close it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, now let me try.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: There we go.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Did that work?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yep, it's in there.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Let me open up it again here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Now, We've all been working on that newsletter for you.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, good!
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Probably… What do you think, tomorrow? Give it to her tomorrow, or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Tonight?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I'm gonna finish it tonight, yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, excellent.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm liking the way it'd come out, so…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So let's go over what idea… That…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Ideas we got of what we want, or what we think can go in there, into the guidebook, and if you want.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: When I work on any project, I like to get other eyes on it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So how many eyes on it do we really want to have, or how are we going to include those eyes? I mean, we can go ahead and work on it and, put our ideas in the guidebook, and then let other county assemblies review it, and then they
Louise Campbell-Anthony: you know, can tweak it and add suggestions at that point, or we can all do it together at the same time, just meet with everybody, because I'm gonna start the Union State Initiative.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Where it's going to be mainly focusing on county assemblies organizing themselves and helping the other county assemblies in their state organizing themselves, just like the model county was, but it's going to be a little slightly different approach. I'm trying to get away from
Louise Campbell-Anthony: State assemblies.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. Because there's too much… Baggage with that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So the ownership of a county is where I want to go and approach it in that way.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And so, talk to the county assemblies, and let them take on the, responsibility of their own county, and let that branch out to the other counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, in that Union state, we could have them put their eyes on it, Or… Bring them in later.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Nope.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The whole thing is we gotta come up with
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, it's… when you read the article I sent you, it gives you a little background on kind of what we did, you know, coming from Craig. Greg,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: He was our mentor, basically. He was the one that pulled us all together, got us working together.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Taught us to… Appreciate each other, you know, that kind of thing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think all the counties need to start doing that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And when they start really focusing on
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What they really want in their counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In how we really need to build them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's like, we… as a union state, basically, we need your drill assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: we need a militia in your counties that fall into the state, right? Because when there's a disaster or something, your county is going to be the first one, your militia in your county, the people. You know, because militia just means the people in a county. Same as the jurissembly is, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's just all the people in your county or your state, right? So, those people are going to get called first, right? And then we'll probably call PKTF to help, you know, those kind of things. You have a hierarchy, you know, type of thing on how you're going to get things done, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And, you know, and basically your General Assembly. So you have your three pillars, you know, naturally you do your General Assembly first, because that's pulling everybody together, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then after you get them all together, then what do you work on? Like, we worked on our juroral assembly first, because we felt that was our strongest part of our government.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it was the part to where we needed all the people involved, you know, like, for all the juries, for, you know, jurors, for all the, you know, to get a justice, to get our sheriffs, to get, you know, the main things that we need to actually make our county strong.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And again, when you make that county strong, you're also making the state strong, right? Because…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, the backbone on everything you do is going to come from the counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's just like what you, in your resurgence thing, the last one, one of the things I like that you brought up in there is that, you know, the funding really is going to go to the Union State.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It is the counties that are going to fund the state. It's not really the state going to fund the counties, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And don't tell him that, though.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Tell them that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I know.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I mean, I just told… I interpreted what I saw in her articles, and even.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Sometimes, I was…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: She be, like, saying something different. I'm like…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, we… we want to decide on something. I like this way. This way that you see it right here, this one sounds more solid.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The one you're talking about now, that one don't sound as solid.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. I actually had a conversation with Hunter and GFG,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And their whole goal was going to fund the Union States first.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And the union states would then be contacted with them, and they would then fund their states based on whatever budget you came up with, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then, you know, because every county's going to come up with a budget, right? And what that budget is, because every county is going to filter up what they really want the state to do, right? So, you know, it's like, we have to drill into everybody's head that it starts with the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Then in your towns, right? What does your towns need that need funded, or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And then your counties, or then come from that, you know, and what does the counties need, you know, for each county in your state? And then those counties will determine what they'll need statewide, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is what me and Greg had this big discussion, probably 2-3 years ago, about how to really build this and make it strong and get the people involved.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And… you know, Try to come up with some…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: way of keeping us together, you know what I'm saying? Keeping us focused on each other, you know what I'm saying, and what we're doing, you know what I'm saying? What the project really is, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's what I want to kind of do with this handbook, is to get people involved
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: and their counties to get involved, you know, and when I'm saying counties, I really mean Union State, because that is all the counties, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, because we have to get all the counties, at least two people in every county, so that we can stand our union state.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So we got…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I gotta focus on least that, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Let me share my screen here. I'll tell you, I'll look… go through my document here, tell you what my train of thought is.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In putting this together.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The Republican form of government, it needs to talk about, I think, the county assembly handbook, guidebook,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Needs to bring that part home.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: in that our government is a Republican form of government, so I thought to start off with that. And this individualism, which I was trying to…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: bring out in the resurgence, post report number 8,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I don't think we got what individualism is when I look at our state assemblies and how they conduct government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, bring… so, using that as a foundational introduction to the county assembly guidebook, I thought would be good.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because our government has to be built on Republican form.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is just… and all you see here is what I brought from my resurgence project, just to fill that in.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then, the second thing I have is outreach.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Outreach is the key to us establishing our government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So we do a section on that, and these are just some… some points I brought forward out of my Resurgence, 8.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And the outreach that we do… we are doing
Louise Campbell-Anthony: is back to what you said, back to the resurgence Post Report 8 said, is getting two, at least two.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Declare it national on every county, Is what qualifies you… your… Repu- your Union state.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You don't have a… technically, there is no county until you have those two people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. Then it's an American county. And technically, until all those counties can say both two inheritors, until that can happen, then the Union State is not formed yet.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, that's what the key of outreach, this section.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I was thinking we can bring out.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then… After your union state is actually formed.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: or your counties each is accounted for with their two people. Now, these two people are just two people declared. This is not two people forming a county assembly government yet. It's just two people declared.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: To establish the county as an American county, not abandoned.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Anna says if you have two people in every county, then that means your county's standing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But it doesn't mean you have a government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You just… you just have the county stand, and we need those two people to… so that we can stand our union state.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, then this is the… this is the pro… you see the progression I'm going with this. So then, after you get the two people in every county, your union state is formed.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, you move to standing and declaring your assembly. So, this section, I was thinking, you talk about, your standing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, everybody has to declare themselves, and… and then those who declare themselves are the ones who… who are… who have the standing to convene an assembly, period. To convene an assembly, you have to be an American.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then, and I think…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In order to create an assembly government, you have to have at least 3 people. That's what I think it would… it is, 3 people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So once you get 3 people, you have a county assembly government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: and then you have to give your 30-day notice that you're gonna assemble here, what date, what time, so that people, everybody can come
Louise Campbell-Anthony: To hear what it is that we gotta tell the community people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, This part here…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We have to… the counties have to decide how they're going to structure their towns.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because just like our States of the Union General Assembly are comprised of our two county electors.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Are the… is the county gonna have their county general assembly comprised of two town electors?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Or how are they gonna do that?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That one I haven't figured out yet.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because… You would think probably so, because really the town wouldn't be standing without at least two people, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so you still repeat that same principle. The town, and then is it… which town is it gonna be? So this section, it's like, which town is it gonna be? Are we looking at the townships in the county, or are we looking at the cities in the county?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: as the town.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think it's easier… it's easier to look at the townships as the town as opposed to the cities as the town, but it just depends on what the people want to… how they want to.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, we gotta… we gotta be careful using the word ship in anything, so…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, I'm…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: clear.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right, so I'm saying those townships would then be converted to the towns, the American towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And because those borders for townships within a county is already, already there.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We can use those borders as a town, as opposed to those city limits
Louise Campbell-Anthony: To be conveyed as the towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's what I was thinking, is…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's just like you have the… all your counties in the state, which is like a quilt, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You'd have your towns, the same thing in your county as a quilt.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that would be the… their borders for each of their towns, right? Which would really kind of be like cities, I guess, or… I don't know… because we don't have townships, I don't think, here in Nevada.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Y'all don't…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Y'all don't have townships? Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We just have the cities, I guess. You know, like, you have Las Vegas, Henderson, you know, different areas, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, right? So, depending on what… which location we're talking about determines… they'll have to determine how they're going to structure that, because we have townships, and we have cities.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And the cities are overlaid over the townships, and there can be more than one city in that township.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That'd be confusing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that's what we have. So, in this section, I'm talking about, you know, declaring your… declaring your county, but you have to figure out
Louise Campbell-Anthony: How is that county assembly going to be…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: field. Is it going to be two from these locations within that county?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So we'll have to discuss that more, but this is what I'm thinking as it's developing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then also in this…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What I'm thinking, though, is say you have 10 towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you take two people from each one, that's 10 or 20 people, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then you're gonna take two… only two of the people in the county that's going to go to the state, right, as your electors?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: how is that going to work based on the towns? You know, like.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Is there gonna be some kind of, like, a fight over, well, I want the person from my town going, or no, I want the one from my town going, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: As part of the counting.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Or is it something that the county… so this is things that we have to look at when we're writing this, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: How do we determine the differences between the county and the towns?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, because…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I can understand you can use the counties as its own government, right? And then the towns are…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: all of, you know, it'd be like the state, like Nevada, and then all the counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, you would have… so the state is really, like.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the overall of the counties, but then in the counties, it's all the counties that… and the states… the counties over top of that, right? And then…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All the towns basically bring their stuff to the county, and then the county then
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, does budgets for them, the towns, and all that kind of stuff, right? Through… basically, there are two people in every town.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So then you would have the same kind of thing, I guess, that would go through the state, you know, your counties to state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But you'd have to figure out how the people get
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, how you elect these people, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. So is it gonna be a public election? See, that's what I was trying to figure out in the, drill assembly Handbook, what her language was when she said, selected… the county electors are selected from the counties.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I didn't under… I don't know what she meant. Does that mean you're gonna run an election? Well, it has… I think it has to be an election, because she said they run their election
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The holiday in the fall.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because the state's assemblies have their general assemblies during… after… right after the holidays, meaning I'm thinking right after the Christmas holiday.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, they have to be elected, they… so they hold their elections, so I'm thinking she was meaning public elections.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: in the fall.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's what we're doing right now, is a public election for all of our officers, for Clark County right now, and some of the other ones that would overlap into the state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In those public elections, are you all selecting your two county electors?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Not at this time, because…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We don't have… We're not sure on that yet, you know what I'm saying? That's where we're at.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's… building this, I think, would get… clarify it better, you know what I'm saying? On how we would do that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And, I don't… I don't think… I don't even have the elections, right here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I just have it convening… you're convening your assembly, you're convening the people to start talking about how you're going to structure your government.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I actually don't have the elections until after the whole county assembly Has field their committees.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Where this…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: after that, then they can think about elections. That's how I have it in this outline. You'll see as I go through, because what I'm thinking…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: what we did, is we basically have all our committees and our, you know, our standing stuff for the counties, right? And then after we've got all the people and we've made a draft of all of the positions we needed to actually make a county, right? Yeah, actually a government.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then after we have all that, we knew that we had the people, then we started our elections, right? Because you have to build first on…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: who's doing what, and training people, and getting it all organized first, right? Before you do any elections or anything else.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Otherwise, you're just… you're trying to overstep. You know, it's like…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: trying to drink the hot chocolate before it's made, you know? You gotta make it first, and then you can drink it, right? The same thing with our counties, you gotta make our counties first, our government, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then we can do our elections and then stand it up, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, since you all don't have townships, how did you all perceive your towns when you all brought your county assembly together? Are they representative throughout all the towns in your county?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Not right now, because we don't have enough people in each town.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to really organize that, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: get them organized, too. We're having a hard enough time just to organize the county itself.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But we have enough people, I… You know, we have probably… a good… 30 people that are constant.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That we need for our deal, but as soon as the money breaks loose, whatever, we'll have 60, 70, maybe 100 people that'll step up right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's just, right now, everybody's hurting for money so bad.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That they can't afford
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to do both, you know what I'm saying? That's what I was trying to explain to Anna. You know, if any kind of money could come through, these people, you know, they're working 2 and 3 jobs now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: A lot of these people, and they just don't have the time. But they want to help. You know, I have a lot of people that are saying, we're there for you, Rocky, I just… I gotta go to work, I have to, you know…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, they gotta take care of their kids. There's just so much stuff with life right now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we're building with what we got, and once we can get it standing, and then opening this
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the money actually filters through, right? You know, then we can actually be stronger at, you know, our counties and our state, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, just about everything in this world right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is built on money, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Think about it, it just… you couldn't do what you're doing in your life without money. You have to have some kind of money.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I have to do it. You know, I've been lucky that I have a really good job, and I make a lot of money, so I don't… I'm not worried about that, and I try to use what I have
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Helping people, too, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, I can only go so far with that, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, the deal is, is… We're doing it. But anyway, go ahead to your… you're…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, okay, so this section… I also got in here about the laws,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: when you… when you declare yourself a county assembly, I would… I would expect you…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I don't know, I just think it would be prudent to declare what laws you're standing on, so that's why I just have the public laws.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, in somewhere in your declaration, because people don't know what law that this American government is on, because all they know is the municipal laws, so that has to be in the conversation of.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But in our conversation, we always talk that we're… that we're under the American common law.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's our law. So we base everything on that, and that's what we're gonna… our courts are gonna run under, that's, you know, what we're gonna learn, that's what we're teaching, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: American common law, so you… you have to stand on
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What the law of the land or the, you know, the soil really is, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Are them, you know, malicable? All the laws that are out there now are not us.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we have to step away from that and come up with what is our real law. We have to talk about that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In this guidebook, again, we need to stress what is
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The laws of our land, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What are we going to stand under? Because you have to have that backing, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Otherwise, you don't have, you know, a way to fight, because you don't have a lot of stand width, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so that… and maybe… maybe you need to talk about the flag in this… in this area. I don't know. I'm just thinking of that right now, because I don't even think I got the flag in here at all. But that needs… that needs to come in, because your laws are… your… your flag dictates what laws you are operating under.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I got the standing and declaration of the county.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Then the pillars. So the… the pillars, I have… the county assembly has one pillar, actually, which is the General Assembly, and then one sub-pillar, which is a drill assembly. We always talk about we have four pillars. This is another thing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, not in the counties.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, I'm talking about in the States of the Union.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In the international state, we got… we say we have 4 pillars.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But technically, we have one pillar, and it's called the General Assembly. The other three are sub-pillars.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Nice.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's… that's what Lisa did with her little thing. She changed it where journalists only is at the top, and the other three are below it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I don't even like it that way.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: it gives you the impression that the General Assembly, is over these three sub-pillars, which they are, but they're not the same. They're not… they're not over it. It's like… it's like, you have the General Assembly, and this General Assembly is made up of two electors from each county. All those people
Louise Campbell-Anthony: are not… Over these 3 sub-pillars.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: These three sub-pillars have an autonomy.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Like, the court. They're not gonna keep telling the court what to do.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Or they're not gonna keep telling the militia what to do? Or they're not gonna keep telling the International Business Assembly what to do. They have to know what their jobs are. They have jobs.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, it's like in our county, the sheriff is the highest law enforcement, and actually, really, the kind of the highest person in your county.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? And you're not gonna tell the sheriff what to do.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, the sheriff's gonna say, this is how we run our sheriff, you know, our sheriff department, right?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: But I like the way you explain it, because that's not how it is explained. But the way you've explained it right now with the General Assembly, and that, that's not how we talk about it. So it always… everybody always focuses on, it's always the people, the people, we all together, but how you explain it right now, that totally makes sense.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: And I think it should be explained, we… you just did.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Because that's not how it is explained to us.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, because the General Assembly is just people getting together to go over what it is that you need to… in your county, right? Or your state, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And, and make decisions.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Think about it, Rocky, think about this. This is what I keep thinking about, why I think we're missing. The General Assembly comes into session.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Once a year.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In January.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: the two county electors from all the 50 states, I mean, from all the… Two county electors from each.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's like, we have 17 counties, so you have 2 from each one of those, so you'll have…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And go to their state, General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They take care of business. They're gonna hear the reports!
Louise Campbell-Anthony: From those sub-pillars.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's been doing all the work all year long.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: There's no way that they can be over them, because they're not even there.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: For the rest of the year.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. So that's why I like it separate, because they have an autonomy to go and do the work throughout the whole year, and then report to the General Assembly, meaning all the counties.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Report back to them what they've been doing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The counties will say, oh, no, we didn't want it done that way, or we need to add this, and then they get to review everything.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah. The way you're talking, I think we need to lose the word pillars.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And use…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Just call me.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Standing committees! Standing committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? Because that's what they are. There's… they're… you have your drural assembly, which is standing by itself.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You have your, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Sheriff's committee standing by itself, you have your militia committee standing by itself, and when…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the General Assembly comes into session, then all those people get together and say, well, during our year, we were doing this, we need this and whatever, and everybody talks about it, makes a decision, boom, that's over, then they go back doing their work, and they're on their own pillars, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, because it's… it's only the General Assembly
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: maybe it's where you, like, do all your budgets and you do certain things, you know what I'm saying? But they're not really in control of nothing, really, like you're saying. They're just a place where we can get together and decide what it is we need for next year.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah. Other communities. And then you go back to your county and do the work. Right. Because you're going back for the rest of the year to do the work that you all just talked about y'all want done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Exactly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: that's why I don't even like the General Assembly and the three pillars, because the General Assembly ain't even there most of the time.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Except for now, that we're getting reconstructed, it's there, but… but it's not…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Supposed to be there all the time.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's because the way Anna and the rest of the people, you know… I think Terry had a lot to do with that, you know?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Which, again, sometimes she doesn't come up with some good stuff either, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But they were trying to… I think everything that got done in the state, you know, with the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: How to build a drill assembly, or how to build… an assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They, again, went top-down, which is what you're talking about you don't like.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's what we all don't like, right? It should be bottom-up, which means our people, our committees, and then our General Assembly all come together, right? Like what you're saying.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't know how we're gonna word that, or what kind of words we're gonna use to…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: make that known, you know, that this is how you really need to build things? Because it really does start with the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then it starts with the committees you build with those people… with those people, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you're saying, you know, it's like you're saying, is once you have those committees, you know, like your juroral assembly, which is your courts, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They're gonna be off on their own, doing their own thing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They're not gonna be coming back and forth to the General Assembly to ask for anything, they're just gonna do their work.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I… I never did understand that link.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And why they would have to come back to the General Assembly to do what? Ask for what?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And if you… and just think about it, those people in those sub… subcommittees are supposed to be the ones competent in that particular area of expertise. So what is the General Assembly going to be telling them about what to do? You don't… they're the ones supposed to know what to do.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Of course you… if… if you hire somebody, you do know what you want done, so… but they're gonna advise you, well, that's not a good idea, I think it should be done this way based on my experience.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You know, that's how that relationship is supposed to go. But all a committee is there for is to do some work. Like, do whatever it needs to do to make this…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: court functional, or make this militia functional. You're just there to do the work.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: From what I get from the General Assembly is that
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is… you basically, once a year, whatever, you come to the General Assembly, each of these committees, you want to call… we can call them that for now, and…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: basically tell… the people, which is the General Assembly, how things went during the year.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? How did I… we get our work done, and how is it done, and it… and it's doing good, but maybe we need this or this too, to add on, so we need to change our budget to get that, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, it's… you know, like Anna's said this many times, as you have your committees, and then the chair or whatever from the committee comes back to the General Assembly, does this let all the other people know what they've done? And…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, and if there's needed to be any voting, whatever, then you can vote on it at that time. But it's not something you would do
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: all year long, like you're saying. It's… the General Assembly comes in session and then leaves, because you don't really need them. They're not going to do anything, really.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, as… as… These other committees are doing their work, they're the ones doing the work.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And who… and this is who this… who the committees are made up of. The committees are made up of those people in the General Assembly. Those two electors from every county are… is what made up… makes up the General Assembly. So, the international business, the militia, and all that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They… those people in the General Assembly was assigned a committee to work on. You know how the legislature do it now? Where all those House… the senators and stuff are on certain committees?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's really how it happens here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's the same.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Dang, yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: County electors, are assigned to whatever committees they're gonna work on for the rest of the year.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But that's a lot of people. If we really built it the way that she said in the General Assembly Handbook at first.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's a lot of people you got to do the work. Two county electors from every county in your state?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's… we're lucky that we don't have that many counties, but it's like the LRO that I've created. I've actually been typing in all the counties, and there's over…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: 3,000-something counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you take, you know, if there's 3,000… say there's 3,000 counties, that means there's 6,000 people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That is going to be involved in all this stuff that's going on, right? So, yeah, it's a lot of people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And especially depending on your state, could be, you know, if some of the states had 60 counties?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, that's 120 people in just that one state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yep.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think… I think Ohio had 100… no, they have 88. Illinois have 100.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You think about it, that's 200 people in that little state that's gotta run everything, or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: decide on everything or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We'll get there. We just have to put it in writing, though, on how this is supposed to work. That's what I said.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Me and Craig, we've had a lot of discussions, and by what Anna was saying with Lost Up.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We came up to the conclusion, like you, Something's not right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know what I'm saying? We're not doing the right things. And that's the reason why we keep failing, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, if you… if you…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Keep trying to do top-down, it's always gonna fail because we have no foundation.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We don't have the people together doing this, and doing the work. Because, like you said, we need the people doing the work.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We don't need, really, a General Assembly, we just need people doing what it is we gotta get done.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Neat.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So how do we put that in words? I mean, we'll come up with that eventually, but…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, so that's why I have… the county assembly has a journal assembly and a journal assembly pillar.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, technically, she said the county doesn't have A militia assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Doesn't have a malicious assembly. Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: She told me they did, and she tells me they don't.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, you think about it this…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because I've asked her all kinds of questions about militia.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And she's… and basically, the militia
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is all the people in your accountants, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then you would have somebody that would organize those people in your county.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then those people will then go to the state if it needs to be an international problem, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Then your militia would be international at that point, and you would have the international militia, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So… I think it's overlapping, it's…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: we're not really looking at it right, because I think everything we do, you know, just like Anna says, if you're in a county, you're in a state, you're in a state, you're in a county, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, if you're a militia in a county, you're a militia in a county, and you're also a militia in a state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, I asked this question, Rocky.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I asked her… let me go back to it…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I… I've got so many…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: things I've asked her and got complex on, it's just…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I thought we had it, but when her answer came back, I'm like… Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It was about that. I said,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Do county assembly militia units have to be formed first to be called upon by the state militia commander, or is there a standing militia drawn from anyone, anywhere, across the state, and has nothing to do with or is not dependent on a county militia's unit at all?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I said, Joe says we don't have county militia units, we have community resiliency units on our counties that can be called upon by the state assembly militia Commander.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: She says, It's a special purpose sub-assembly of the General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Not everyone who is a member of the General Assembly is in the militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We call our county-level forces Minutemen.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: County is limited to county boundaries unless specific agreements for joint action are in place.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The original Minutemen at Concord and Lexington were not militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They were local.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I say, How is the state militia created?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Is it made up of organized units from the counties?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Or random volunteers signs up from all over the state to join the state militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Are you saying the State Assembly militia is made up of those people in the General Assembly, but not all of them, and has nothing to do with county units at all?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The State Militia is sponsored by the State Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The county Minutemen may, in all capital letters, also be members of the state militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But, they are separate organizations and operate in different jurisdictions.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So… She's saying that those county community resiliency units has nothing to do with the International State Assembly Militia.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you look at jurisdiction, Because now we're talking about national jurisdiction over international, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, in a way, she's right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That national jurisdiction militia people, or whatever you want to call them, resilience or whatever, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Have no right, or no… They really shouldn't be in the international jurisdiction, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So they would be only in their national jurisdiction, which would be their county, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, for you to get this international people, they would have to be called on by the state, or by the counties, right? You know, the state…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The state can't tell the counties or the soil jurisdiction people that you're in our international jurisdiction now. You know what I'm saying? These are some of the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: conflicts I come up with that when she's talking, you know what I'm saying? Just like what you just said that she's saying, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In some ways, she's right in what she's saying, because there's a jurisdiction deal, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, Unless you're a state citizen, you're not an international, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you're just the ASN, you're…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, you know, a soiled national jurisdiction, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And tell you… because remember, everybody that's in the state
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's like these two electors become citizens.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then they're on now international, they can work on international, or they can take their hat off and come back to the soil, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So… Those were… those are the conflicts I have.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And Ann… You… if you… like a sheriff, a sheriff is a state citizen.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The Justice of the Peace is a state citizen.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, even though they're on the soil, they're still state citizens. Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But they're still not international, either.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No, they're not international. So, that language that they were saying that the citizen is only on the state, international state, that's not the case. Well, that is not the case according to some of these articles.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, my… what me and Craig came up with is a citizen is somebody working for the government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No matter.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No matter where you're at, right? So, like, if you're a Justice of Peace, you're a citizen. If you're a jury, at the time you're a juror, you're a citizen.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: When you step out as being a juror, then you're back international, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, well, let me ask you this. Is a committee man a citizen?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: A committee?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, man, a person on the committee.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's just, an ASN, just a national.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, isn't… aren't they serving the government?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In a way, yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So these are the things.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Is that true?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: there's a bunch of conflicts, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, there's… nobody's really sit down and explained what is really a citizen, what really is a national, and then how do they mix up? How do you become one or the other? You know what I'm saying?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, I'mma tell you how I see it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: If you had those two county electors, Went to the state, General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They are now state citizens.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, if they serve your international business pillar, your militia, your, druro, they're coming from
Louise Campbell-Anthony: the General Assembly, who are already citizens.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They're already citizens, they were elected to the General Assembly, they are already citizens. So those citizens are the ones that's filling up the committees on all those other three pillars.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We don't have it going that way now. We got just anybody jump, volunteer, you know, raise your hand, and… because… and this is what's causing this confusion on what we're reading in this book, in the Drill Assembly Handbook, and what's actually being… being, you know, done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: this is… we're… and I think it's being done this way because we just… she just needed people to serve and get things started.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You have to recognize it's not… this is.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I… I underst- I understand why…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Anna did what she did, okay? For her to tell the United States Incorporated.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that were standing, she had to get all the stand… all the states standing, or in… or in session.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So she needed at least 2 or 3 people from every state to
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to stand, right? In those states, and then it makes them in session, right? And once they're in session, and she hit all 50 states in session, that means now we're… we're in session, the whole government, right? All 50 states are in session. But it doesn't mean we have a government in our states. Just means that we're in session.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So… That's the fastest way to get that up and running so we get recognized as a
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: as a union, it's, you know, like the State of the Union or the Federation, right, is to stand up all, you know, get all the states in session.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? But again, we still don't really have a government, and that's where I think she… she was lacking. She…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: got to that point, what she did, which is what we needed, but then turned… then turn around, and then start getting our people and our counties and our states up, right? To actually get our governments running. She tried to go the other way, which is never going to work. We've tried it so many times.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it… and you get these…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Coordinators and people that are in the state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And they keep destroying everything, you know, because they don't like the way you're doing it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know what I'm saying? And it's really supposed to be all the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We don't care what the state
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It says about our counties, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: we shouldn't, because the counties have… you know, it's just like Anna told me that
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The counties have the most power in your state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If they have the most power, why are we listening to the state?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, if you think about it, if you think… really think about it, when I… when I was doing that episode 8, and I drafted up the counties and the Union State, and then they had their DBA, the Republics.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That is the national level government. That side right there controls everything that's happening in this nation.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The states of the Union, their attention is outward.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We don't look at it that way, though. They are international. If we start using the term national government, international government, we might get… we might capture exactly what we're saying.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because the national government…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Anna's told me many, many times, you know, because I've had so many issues with the state, right, with suing them, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And she said, She even told Su&M, you have no jurisdiction over Rocky and the counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The counties have more jurisdiction than you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They're the ones telling you what to do.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? So, why are you trying to tell the counties how to run their counties? Because you have no jurisdiction to do that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's where I think we're missing the boat on a lot of this, is we're not…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We're not understanding what is the jurisdictions and who is supposed to be doing what.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think that's what this… this guide needs to say.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is… what is the jurisdictions, you know, like the people, the towns, the counties? Those are the most powerful jurisdictions, is first the people, right? Then your towns, right? Because now the county's not going to tell the towns what to do, right? But the towns are going to go up and tell the county what to do.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, what our town won't. And the counties is going to deliver on trying to coordinate all that amongst all those towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that… so all the towns are going to come together with their budgets and everything that they want in their… in their county, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And they're gonna then… those two people, or whatever you're saying, goes to the county.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And tells them what they want, and then the county works on it, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: all the towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, again, it's not gonna be the people in the county that's going to tell all these towns and the people what to do.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's why we think we're all backwards right now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah. Because then the… once the counties do what they're doing, they're going… see, this is the United States.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, they're going to have their own business organization.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Called the United States, that's the DBA, the United States. It's the DBA for the National Soil Government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They're taking care of all the national issues.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The DBA over here, the United States of America, are supposed to be taking care of all the international issues.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I think it started off… the confusion started with this land and soil. I've been trying to…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Trying to break it, I know, me too.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I keep trying to quote her.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I keep trying to corner Anna and the difference between… because I tell her, I said, well, you're telling me that the counties are all national, and you're telling me national means soil.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that means the counties are soil jurisdictions. She goes, yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I said, and the state, It's really the land
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that the counties are setting on, right? And she goes, yes. So I said, okay, the state has
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: land jurisdiction. Counties have soil jurisdiction.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I said, if you put them both together and they work together, then that would be land and soil, but they're really two separate things. You got a land jurisdiction, international, and then you got your national jurisdiction, which is the soil, and they deal with all just soil stuff only, and they deal with only national stuff outside of their state, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's just like, if we need something done between Arizona and Nevada, right, it goes to the state, and the state hasn't.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. Actually, it… It doesn't do that? When I did that Resurgence post report, you'll get to… I got to that section, and I made sure that I mentioned it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It said, that the Union State
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Handled, handled the matters between the other counties and the other states.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay, I didn't see that part.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It said the counties and the other states.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that made the Union State land and soil.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The states of the Union?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: is land and sea!
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But it's not land and soil, and that's where the confusion is.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Land and sea can be internet… and it's not land… it's like land and sea and air, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The only way you can say land and soil jurisdiction with no S
Louise Campbell-Anthony: is if you're talking about the county, or the Union State.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because land, and this is… and this makes sense.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: When she explains how a county sheriff is a land… Jurisdiction sheriff.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, he's a land jurisdiction sheriff because on his county, he does have power over the land.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In his county.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: and the soil.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And so does that county assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. You're governing all of that on your land and soil between your borders. That's what makes you a land and soil jurisdiction. A county.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But it cannot happen with international jurisdiction. It cannot be a land and soil jurisdiction with no S.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, see, it's… the way I look at it is…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The, like you said, county and soil.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The Union State is land and soil.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The state, right, which is land and air.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? Or land and sea, whatever way you want to do it. I think land and sea.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: millionaire?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then, when you do the International Pillar, That's land and air.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? That's where you get to outside of our country.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that international pillar, because they're the ones that's dealing with outside of everything, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's… that becomes the land and the air, and the… our states are really land and sea, you know, because the… the water and everything in the land, that's the sea, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because we.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's all under us, it's even on the sides of us, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, that's the way I look at the jurisdictions, on the way people should be working on stuff, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think we got it all mixed up, because we keep hearing this land and soil all the time, that the state is land and soil. And that's why they think they have control over the soil.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, just like…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: and then soil.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's why they got this… their court, living court. You're not a living court.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No. You're not the people's court… you're not the people, living people, you're the lawful persons. And it gets… it gets so confusing. But, I think I'm clearer!
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I haven't had Anna's, input yet.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Your last… your last thing, I think you were right on the spot.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: your… I think you were…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, because you said land and soil when you needed to, and you said soil when you needed to, and you said land when you need to. So…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But it didn't look… it didn't sound like you were mixing it up either. You know, like you really.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I wasn't… I was… I separated it the way that it made sense, because if you say… because that term, isolationism, when she was sent… explaining to me what this isolationism term is, and they… that the forefathers was trying to make sure that the land and the soil was separated, and the two jurisdictions were separated, well, that's the only way you're going to get that isolationism.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Realme.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, what y'all got? They have rice chickens, and… Excuse me, yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, goodness.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Is it fried rice? Fried chicken? What is it? Fried chicken?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Seeming a little bit too sad.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And do something with him. Is he gonna…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Does he need to go… he needs to go outside and use the beds. In this…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: If we can bring out those concepts.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: in the guidebook, that would be helpful.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And maybe the pillars and the committees, maybe just call the General Assembly and Assembly and everything else committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think we need to get away from the word pillars, I think.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because it doesn't make sense, especially what you said, which does make sense, that when we actually get up and running, we're gonna have standing committees, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those standing committees will be your juroral assembly, your, you know, your
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Sheriff's department, your militia, whatever. You're gonna have different committees that are running year-round, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I don't… I don't think Pillars is the right thing for that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: To say who they are, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because they are really just committees, and then we've been told many times that these are your committees. You know, it's just like we have our recording secretary committees, that's the way we look at it, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And we… and there's a chair in that committee that handles all recording.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And training, and all that kind of stuff. So, and then the sheriff has his own committee, and he has his deputies, right? Which is in his committee. And then he's the one… is the… is the chair in the sheriff's department, right? So, every committee we have, we have some chair… somebody's a chair in it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh my goodness.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's… that's… examples are exactly what I'm saying, is, like, the sheriff is…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the chairperson of his committee, and he's got all the deputies and everybody in his committee, right? And the same thing with the juror assembly, you have the juries, or the jurors.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that are really that committee, and then you have one person, could be the Justice of Peace, that's really standing up as being that
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: spokesman for the jurors, right? Or the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Or it could be the clerk, the county clerk, or whatever. I don't know. I mean, that's what we've been kicking around ourself.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think for a State of the Union, the drill assemblies, and this is… this is a… this is a concept, too, that I think Lisa was trying to bring out on her… her organizational chart, where you have organizational part of the pillar, and the operational part of the pillar. I don't know if you all seen that… oh, I sent… I think I sent you that chart.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The operational part is the courts.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And the organizational part is the actual drill assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The one that oversees the court. Right. And same thing as in the militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You have the militia assembly, and then you have the actual militia.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: the… the justices, the jurors, they're not… actually, they're… they're not even part of the drill assembly itself. The drill assembly are the… those subcommittees that actually get… make sure the oversight and all that stuff is done, all the paperwork and all the forms and all the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you're.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: with policies or processes, I should say, that's what that assembly is for, to make sure that functional part can function.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. It's actually your court clerk, your sec… your court secretary, your… those are the ones that are functional, the ones that's running the whole thing. Yeah. The jurors actually get called from the court secretary when they build up a deal, then they start calling to get people to sit in the jury.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's when the juries then stand up. And then the juries, once they're in the court, then it is the jurors that have control. They're the ones that got the most power in that court.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? And then your Justice of the Peace is basically a…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is the person that keeps the court in session, you know what I'm saying? Or what needs to get done. But he doesn't have any authority, really, over anything as far as what's getting determined.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: He's like the moderator in the courtroom.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Exactly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Exactly. And that's why, if you see the thing that I built, I actually put in our little draft I did of our courtroom.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: does show you that the juror… the jury is the most power, and then you got your two, you know, your defendant and your… what, forgot…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The opposite on that. Under them, and the Justice of the Peace is off to the side, because he's there just to moderate the whole thing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's the jury that one's going to be asking all the questions, doing all the work, you know, getting all the information they did, and make decisions, right? So that's why there's front and center. They're the ones that is controlling, really, the court, and else it gets out of the hand, then the Justice of the Peace steps in and goes, hey, wait a minute.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We, you know, that's hearsay, that can't be in the court, or this is that, whatever, you know what I'm saying? But he… but he really… he's just making sure that everything is being done lawfully right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: his own work, that's all he's got to be sat there doing. And that's why he's off the side, that he's looking over everything, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's with all these pillars, we have to put them into some kind of a…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: what you're saying, working. How does this really work? How do we put it together? Because I think…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the actual… Committees and stuff like that will eventually kind of go away, in a way.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Even though that you're gonna have your standing
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: committees, you know, like the court clerk and all that for that, and you'll have the sheriff for his, and this one for that one, right? You'll have those, you can call them committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then you would… then you would have committees that we have a disaster, then you create a committee on the fly, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then that could… then you just pick a bunch of people, and somebody stands up to organize it, and go try to figure out how to fix that problem, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's just like if it's a big disaster.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, like a hurricane come through, whatever, then that committee would get PKTF involved and get other people involved to actually help try to get this fixed, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that would be their committee, and that would be their job. But again, those are not year-round committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Like, your courts are, your sheriff, your, you know, different, you know, militia, those ones are year-round.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Those, those you hired, you have to pay them to do the work 9 to 5.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Exactly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, in this area, well, then let's just have… I like just having General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then everything else, committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And we can see how that works out, because I got all the… this is the list of the committees I came up with that I think can help the General Assembly of the county, or the town, I don't know how the town would do this, but the General Assembly of the county
Louise Campbell-Anthony: function, the most critical parts, I was thinking. So if I don't use… if I don't use drill assembly, I want to use Judiciary Committee.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Committee that does what the drill assembly would normally do, but it's not called a drill assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All the committees that you have in here are really standing committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, these are all the ones that you need to run year-round.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And for the, like, the militia, I think I have, the Public Safety Committee. The Public Safety Committee handles whatever militia's gotta take care of.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I like that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: better.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't like the word militia, let's put it that way, because to me, militia sounds like an army, and we're not an army.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I got the Community Resiliency Units.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, if we stick with that, because that's what… that's what the PKTF is using, I think we… I think Joe came up with those words… that… that…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: that, title, as opposed to militia. And then, we're also using this Community Safety Envoy. There's something else that he's developing with that. And I just use Community Watch because everybody needs, you know, it's the community watching everything, what's going on, to make sure your community is safe. And we're familiar with community watch groups.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that's what I was using there, but we'll… you'll figure out what terminologies you want to use for it, but the Public Safety Committee is that committee that I was thinking of as the militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: On a county level.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I… I think just for… to… to stop the complex and stuff, is stop using the word militia.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's what I think. I don't know how you feel about it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, like, the resilience thing you talk about, or whatever.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I mean, that's fine. I mean, it… it says what it is, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because what it is, is, you know, what the militia really should be doing, and me and Tamara has talked about this quite a bit, is…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: therefore, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: safety of the people, of the… of your… your land, your whatever, you know what I'm saying? They're… they're there to help protect the people from, you know, anything coming around, right? So, like, there's a flood.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Militia gets involved. If there's a car wreck or whatever, militia would get involved, right? Because they do CPR, they, you know, same as some of the other things that would get involved, right? And they would get maybe an ambulance involved, or a cop, you know, the sheriff involved, or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The word militia, to me, doesn't really say what it is.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because it's just being the people, not really anything that they're really doing, it's just them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Especially now in our state, the militia now is…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Really a place to attack people, so it's not really…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, go over those committees and see, you know, what it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I've been reading them, they're all… look good.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Post office gotta be here somewhere, I just don't know where it fits, because that's a whole nother jurisdiction.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Didn't Anna say the post office is federal, or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Or… International?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Federal, yeah, it's federal, but…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: international jurisdiction or something?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's on every county, so how do you relate to it?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's… that's one I haven't figured out myself, too, is…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: and…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I thought about that, because it's like…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The counties who would then hire…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The postal, whatever, to come in and put post offices in your county?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then who maintains that, and who's paying for it? You know what I'm saying?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's something the County Assembly needs to know about, and how is that going to be managed?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because we have our own post office, and then we have the de facto postal services. The county needs to understand how that works.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, I don't know how it fits, but that's something I put in there with the committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, after all your committees are done, then I got the elections section.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: where you elect all your officers, but you have the public elections, and then you have internal elections where you raise your hand and elect people. I don't… the counties… we have to write in here the distinguishing factors between those two, because not everybody is publicly elected.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All of the… all of these, except for the notary, the… bell lift.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All the rest of them, we're doing elections on.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like the sheriff, the clerk, the treasurer, the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Not the court officers, not the notary, the justice of the peace, the bondsmen.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Runsman.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Not the bellys, the corner.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: the court clerk.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those are all in our lectures.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But all the rest of them are…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Subsets of the other… some of the other ones?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like, your court officers would be under the court clerk, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because the court clerk is the one that manages all of the cases and the court and that kind of stuff, right? So your court officers, your bailiff.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those things would be underneath the court.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: structure of organizing it, you know what I'm saying? So those would be probably selected, or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, voted on maybe through their…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, through the court clerk committee, whatever, you know, the court committee, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We have to think about it… we gotta think about this aspect to… to courts and things.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The way things are run now, you… these people are hired to do a job. These are 9-to-5 jobs. How is the county assembly going to select these people? They're not necessarily the people
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The people that came into your assembly, your assembly government. This is… these people shouldn't be in the assembly government. You see what I'm saying? They have to run the courts, so they shouldn't be in the assembly government.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Which, which people?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Like a court clerk.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, but the court clerk in the… if you go through the How to Build Assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The court clerk actually
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: organizes which Justice of Peace is gonna be in this case, which juries are gonna be in it, all the court documents, they keep them, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And they organize… they actually say when the court dates are going to be, so they're really kind of like the chair of the court, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And they're hired, so when we…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And they do hire, they could hire, yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No, I mean, when these people are elected.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: These are hired employees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They're… they're… and so they're not…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: in the assembly. See, see what I'm saying? They're not the assembly people. The assembly people are those two electors that came from each town that made up your General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then your, your General Assembly Supposed to, conduct elections.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: These elections are all the jurors in that…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: County, vote on the court clerk, the sheriff.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: votes on who they are hiring for these positions. They're not hiring them to be in the assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They're hiring them to do these, these, these jobs.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There's jobs, right, there are jobs.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I don't think we think of it that way.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, I keep… I keep using the word positions. So we're electing them in positions, the same thing as you'd be hiring them for a position.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Same thing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And eventually, once money gets flowed, whatever, these people will get paid, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because these are paid positions, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, you're electing them, you know, because you're… you have to elect your sheriff, you have to elect your county clerk in certain things, right? But then they're going to be paid, so they're really not…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Even though they have to be an ASN, they're really not part of your General Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right, they're not part of the General Assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. Because they're now… and they're… and that's where you're… we get out from the pillars, because
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Really, these are not pillars, they're paid people doing a job for you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that's why I said, I mean, if you can call them committees, or you can call them whatever.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But I just don't like the word pillars, because they're not really a pillar.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There are a… a…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Is there some kind of committee or something we… or a job we need to get done, and we're gonna hire these people, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's how.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So that's the section, right after committees, we got the elections, we can… you're ready to do your elections. Then this section here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: This section here is Management of Government Services and Continuity of Public Services. This is something I think is important that we…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: we start to think about, and what that… what I'm saying here is, We have, right now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: All the county that we call our county government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That we call our city government, that we call our township government. They are all government service providers, not government at all.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: they become… Under our management, as now the assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, what are we gonna do with managing them? How are we gonna structure this? And then, when I say continuity of public services.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now that your assembly is now declared as the bona fide government, how are you going to keep the peace
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And transition everything under your new management without creating an uproar in your community, and discontinuing services that they depend on.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You knew.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I know you didn't agree to pay for, but they're depending on it now, so what is this county assembly now going to do about all of that?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's what this section is about.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, again, I've thought about that, too, myself, about… Say, like, unemployment, or… or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Child Welfare, or any of these other ones, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We're gonna have to do something about them at some point.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Where it's… so what do we do?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And how do we manage these? Because we're going to have to come up with some kind of budgets or something. Or, like Anna was saying, is if we feel that we don't need it anymore, just get rid of it. You know what I'm saying? But there's going to be certain things that you just can't get rid of, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I won't.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, they've been going on for so long that…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, until you can get people back on the land and get them their GFG account and them getting their money, there's… anything doing with money to people, you know, like welfare and all that kind of stuff?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: there's gotta be some transition to that, you know what I mean?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Are we going to have to manage it somehow? And where do we manage that? Do we do it in the General Assembly?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, which is these two electors from every county, or do we do it in some other committee, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, we… that has got to be iron… that would have to be ironed out, but that's… I think we need to put that section in here, as far as the guide… the guidebook. And government funding, now, the county have to decide
Louise Campbell-Anthony: how are they allocating funds? So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Like, like I said, the townships, the city, and the county, well…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, so that you know, in, in… you said you don't have townships, so we do have townships.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We also have cities.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: and we have counties. So, the county…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Sends money, or no, the county has the… has the purse for the township.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So the county gives the money to the township.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Based on whatever the county decides the township is gonna have.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: the city…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Is the self-governing body who didn't want to be part of that town… the county telling me what… how to spend my money.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So they organized themselves and incorporated into a city.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But what happens when they do that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Those people who decided to incorporate into that city limit Have to pay additional taxes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, to have their own self-government to decide what to do with their money. So, the county had to give them their money, but it's that extra
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Money that they taxed those people for.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think eventually, though, that would go away, because…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that's actually allowing another government inside your counties, which is what we don't want, right? So I think what we need to do is, like, we need to come up with our own county layouts.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then the people would be in those towns, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then those towns then would come up with their own budgets and what they need, and they're all going to be different. You know, like, one county may need a million dollars, one may need two million dollars, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then they bring it all to the county, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then they discuss, Okay, the county has this much money, some trillion dollars.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: we're gonna… you're saying you need this for this, whatever, so we're gonna budget that, and all these different projects they need, you know, and all the ones for this other town, and whatever, right? And then the money gets dispersed to those projects, right? And then you'd still have oversight to make sure that the money is going to those projects.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So you still have to have… that's what I didn't see in here is the oversight committee, because
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You have an oversight committee, Anna said this several times.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You have an oversight committee for everything. So you would have one for the sheriff Department, you have one for the courts, you have an oversight for the budgets, right, the Treasury. You would have oversight for a different deal to make sure
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In essence, I think this is where the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: maybe the General Assembly does come in, is… They get together, determining
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like, an oversight would go do something, like, say it's the Treasury one, to make sure that they're dispersing the money to the right people, and it's getting done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And if it's not, then they bring it back to the people, which would be the General Assembly, and saying, hey, these funds are not getting
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, fund it the right way, right? And then the people would get together and then decide what they're gonna do about it, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And again, I mean, that may happen once a year, or twice a year, whatever, you know what I'm saying? But that… you're always going to have this… I see you had government oversight and accountability? Yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, just one, though.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, but the way Anna talks is you really need an oversight for each thing that you're doing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, like, if you need one for your courts, one for your treasury, right, your banking, you know, one for your…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Your… I'll call it militia for now, until I… but…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: One of those places will need, you know, oversights to make sure when we, as a county, fund all this stuff, that that funding is getting spent on what it should be spent on.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Instead of, you know, what's happening now, where they're laundering all this money and different things because we're not watching it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And if you don't watch it, people are gonna filter off the top if they can't, you know what I'm saying? So that's why you have to have oversights for all kinds of different things. You know, it's just like you kind of make…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: create a committee to go fix a bridge because it went down, right? Then you have to budget for the bridge. Then you have to make sure somebody oversees that that's getting done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So those are the different committees. You're gonna have more than just the people doing the work.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You're gonna have, and the bank's paying for it, you know, the treasurer paying for it, you're gonna have an oversight to make sure it's getting done and getting paid for, for what we said under our budget, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, that's gotta be in here somehow. I don't know where we're gonna put that, you know? But there… we have to understand the structure of how we're gonna be running our… our counties, right, and our towns. Because it's really the towns that are gonna…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Determine what they need.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? It's not the county gonna say, well, you're only gonna get 1,000 over here, and you're gonna get 2,000 over there. That's… you know, you can't say, you know, because you have 100 people, you get this much money, you got 200 people, you get that money. It isn't by people, it's about what needs to be done in the county, or the town.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, if you need roads or whatever, I mean, it could be one town that's really bad and needs all the roads fixed. Well, they're gonna need more money than maybe a bigger town that's already had their roads fixed, you know what I mean?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So it's not about size of people and all that, it's really what needs to be done. What's the budget? You know, what do we got to get fixed?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And that's… so that is really… that… the government funding one is really the last part. This other part that's down here is really what I was trying to add in here, what I'm gonna do with the Union State.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So this don't have to be part of that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, but you can take a look at that, but the rest of this, is really for the other section that I'm gonna build out.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, what I just showed you here is what I'm thinking
Louise Campbell-Anthony: what I've come up so far, what I think we need to put in the assembling guidebook to help
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I want it to look like something that they can take and really build with it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Go ahead and build what this looks like.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because that's one of the things on the How to Build Assembly that is confusing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There is no real guide.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to anything.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's just like, you need to do this, you need to do this, just like a general everything.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right? Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, it's hard to build something on general, and that's… when we started doing it with Craig and all that, we started breaking everything down into, what is it that we really gotta do? You know, what is… how do we get this working? You know what I'm saying? Because all that general stuff didn't tell us that, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: our juries need to be this, or our justice need to be this, or, you know, what is it we need? That's why I built that courtroom, to see who's going to be in the courtroom, what kind of people do we need, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, like, real world, like, we're gonna be doing something, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: neat.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Instead of something in general.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So a lot of the… all the stuff that you have in here, you know, and in the outreach is one of the most important parts, too.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you're not getting more people back, you know, into the government to help, you know, you gotta outreach to these people, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And it has a framework, like, two… you know you need two from the county to go to the state. So, if you use that same framework, you need two from your towns to go into your county assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: you know what the framework is, and if you reached it or not. Right. You know what your goal is.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Exactly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, you want to…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think I'm gonna have to dig for your document, but if you can find it and send it to me, I won't have to dig for it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, no, I put it in the chat.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, you put in chat already?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But that's just a kind of an outline. I took the How to Build Assembly and some thoughts I did and broke it up into pieces.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then we could take your pieces and kind of…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: move them, you know, like, merge them together, come up with something better, you know what I'm saying?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: together.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's… You're… I…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know a lot more of this because you've been in it so much, and you did the model county and all that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: that I'm gonna rely on you a little bit more.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: green.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Even though I know what we did and how we did things, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But I can help on that area.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But as far as a lot of the stuff with Anna, because a lot of times she confuses me a lot.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's why I keep asking some of the questions over and over again.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: When she asked that question, you said, wait a minute.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I was so happy you said something. I'm like, cause I'm… as she's… as she's saying it, I'm like, no, you didn't say that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You didn't say?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I hate it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: When she was… that's when she was talking about the… the betting.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, the vanning, she didn't say that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm going like, wait a minute, Anna.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You just…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: She told me on the 26th that this is the whatever, and you even went, no! So, like, and now you're saying yes? And she just looks at me like…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't like confusions like that, and she's confusing the people when she does that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's why I got on the next one. I told everybody, you need to watch the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: coordinate a call on the 26th, March the 26th, because she laid it out perfectly what vetting is.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And we, you know, we have to have…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I hate to say roles are…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Procedures, or whatever you want to call it.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: when it comes to certain areas, like you just said, like, when it comes to vetting the election, I think there have to be certain rules, policies, procedures, guidelines, you know, what we want to call it, because, like you said, it's so confusing
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: because we all interpret it differently, you know, when we read something or hear something, but I think when it comes to certain things, it would be nice that we do all have the same guidelines to something. You know, something important like.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: you know, the election, the voting, because I think this is why all the states keep on going back and forth, even on the coordinator's call, even when I was on, Lisa's classes, you know, for the coordinator and all that. Again, it's…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Because she also talked about how Terry does certain things… I apologize, that's my, macaw. How Terry does certain things, and how Ohio does certain things, which is, it's okay for…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: us to interpret, but Lisa also emphasizes a lot on the people, you know, and that's why I like the way you explained it, because people keep talking about
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: the people have the words, the people have the saying, the people have the choice, the people… but in reality, it is not the way you're explaining it. So, I think there's certain things… I'm also like you, like, I like everything on paper, so I can read and understand and follow, and I think that's how the confusion gets taken out by
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: again, certain things, every state is different, you know? I mean, we live in the desert. We don't live like in South Carolina, where there's a lot of rain, so, environment is different. I understand that part, but with certain subjects, certain committees, I think we should have guidelines. And, and,
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: stop going back and forth. I mean, it's tough to say, but, you know, it's.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The way I look at it, there should be, like.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Trading.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: like, steps, like, you do this, do this, do this, you know, and you can get this done, right? Without…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you don't have to go into detail of each one of them, but you have to have some kind of step or guide, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, that's…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's how we want to write this guidebook.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And this is what I was trying to do with how I… how I, chose each those sections in these orders that I chose them in.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: They can walk through it. Yep. That's why outreach is first.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right. You know? You know, don't pass that up. That's first.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I agree.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What I would say, you know, like, from our discussion today.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is our first thing should be getting our two people in our… in each county, so that we can stand the Union State.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mhmo.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Then those people need to do outreach.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: More people in, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then go through, just like what you're saying, you know, step by step.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And as those people get people in, we're still looking for…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So we have to… how… how is the Assembly government comprise.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, if it's the county that we're building.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We got the two people, but your county needs to have two people from each of those towns in that county to go to that county assembly to constitute it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I think this is how…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: This is… I didn't bring this out in my Resurgence 8 post report, because it's just another one of those paradigms that we confused on.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We keep saying… It's the people who decide, it's the people who decide.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The government, the assembly government, It's not the people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's the government.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's the… those that's outside the government, are the people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Those are the people that tell the government what to do.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We're not listening or looking to the people at all. We are self-contained within our government in saying what we're going to do.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Where are the people? We're not…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We don't… because we're not outreaching, we don't even have a vantage point of who those people are. Most of the people are not in the government. Who… most people don't even want to work in government.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But mo- most of the people are not in government.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, that's the reason why we need to word it, just like what you're saying, and maybe we need…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: To make sure we don't miss any steps, like we've done already, is like… like you're saying, let's start with…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Getting the people in certain towns.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Getting to.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And those two people build up your county assembly, your general assembly, right, for the county, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And those people listened to the people in their town.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to bring it to the county, right? That say what they want to get done, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And in…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And once we have the county, and the county understands everything it needs, then the county needs to then, out of those people, right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: elect two of those, they then go to the Continental Congress, right, the state, to tell the state now what they want, right? And it gets filtered up, even though it is from the people, it goes up from the people, from their towns into the counties, and then up farther.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It starts with the townspeople, just the regular old townspeople. Don't start with the county assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, and I think that's… we're almost…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Started to make a mistake here again.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: By just saying counties and forgetting about the towns and the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I started changing a lot of the stuff I've been doing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, and telling people in the meetings, we go to the people, then the towns, then the counties, then the states, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, if I keep saying it that way, they'll get it in their head that that's where it comes from, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think maybe this book needs… this guidebook needs to say the same thing. We need to start with the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: get so many people into the county, right, or into their towns, and then those towns then move up into the counties, right? You know, the town's telling the counties what they do, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And actually really build out a government, like we should be.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah,
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, we have to go backward a little bit here, and get the foundation together.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's the whole point, is, like I always keep saying.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You don't have a good foundation on your house, you don't have a house.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because it'll collapse, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, I can build walls and a roof and everything, but if there's nothing under it, it'll blow away, you know?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, we gotta get that foundation first in this.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And doing what you did, step by step, I think it's a good idea.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: rearrange all the wording and everything, and then we'll go over it again? Is that what you want to do?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I think so. We got our concepts down of, if this… if we… if I missed any step, like, this… this is the step through the guide of how they're going to develop their counties.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I know I just said counties there, but you're going to develop your county based on your town. Your county… the town have to decide if they want a town assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: or not a town assembly, and just have a county assembly, and send… I don't know how the town wants to do it, because some people have townships, some people have cities, some people… I don't know what they have. So we're going to have to put both of those aspects in here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm thinking once… once we get…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Moving on our counties, you know, our towns and our counties, whatever.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: A lot of this, I think, we're gonna redo it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: On what it is that we have.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, we may have different counties, we may have different towns, right? But we can't keep a township because that's not us.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And we could do it as cities, I guess.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I could talk about the townships, because I have one.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is, that's really not a land, you know, or soil type
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: group, I guess, or whatever you want to call it? You know, because the township is de facto.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. So, I mean, we'd have to come up…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So is the city.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: The cities are municipal, so we gotta figure out… the actual townspeople gotta figure out what structure… how are they gonna lawfully convert what it is that they have going on as a government structure in their towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But the deal is, is we're gonna have to build our own towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: in our own government, and that's what…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's what we need to say and hear first, is that people need to get together.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: At least two of each town, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And start building their towns, and then call… and then…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: to tell us what your town is, you know what I'm saying? It's like.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You tell us, is it… what's… where's your limit… town limits at?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, what is your borders of your town?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Just like, you know, like we're saying with the states and the counties, and it's like a quilt. Well, you have your county, and the towns is the pieces of the quilt.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, what are those towns, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: component.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What is that going to look like in your state, or your counties, or your, you know, area, wherever you're at, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Again.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because we're going to eventually have to get away from their stuff and get back to our stuff, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I'm thinking we need to, in this guidebook, we need to start from the ground up.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, think about this, Rocky. What we… I think what we need to do is incorporate their stuff
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Under our management.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Can do that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, cause we're not… it's like… They work for us, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay? And in… in my…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right, what I'm saying is… Maybe we incorporated whatever, but I think we need to rename it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, because we don't want to use the de facto names, right?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: We're… no.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Instead of using township, just use town.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, if we only use cities, I mean, instead of towns?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, whatever the word is that means that area is what we need to use for us.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then if you want to have a township within our town, you know what I'm saying? And then we… then that town controls that township.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yep, that's right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that's… that's how we'd have to, or, you know, like, in this document, explain it like that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, if you…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Those townships are not governments. They are township government service providers. Those cities aren't governments. Those villages aren't governments. The counties aren't governments.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Those are our service providers under our management as our assemblies. Our county assemblies, our town assemblies.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And that's what I'm, you know, saying, incorporating it like that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. And I think in this document that we're doing, though, we have to be clear on that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Use the right words.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you're coming up with some really good words, and I…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, we need to figure out how we're going to incorporate that into this, and from starting ground up, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because we have to start, really, with the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And in with the towns, whatever that's gonna be, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then the town's going to the counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We gotta get the people organizing stuff.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: From the ground up and the people up.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, the deal is, is that…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: When you have… when you have the people in their towns.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You should know the people in your town.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This should be like brothers and sisters to you, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You should know Because you're all working together to do the same thing in your town, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's one of the things that we gotta stress in here, is… The people coming together.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Beautiful.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And organizing this, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, start talking to your neighbors, start… you know, it's like, where I live here, I know my neighbors all up and down the blocks.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, I know everybody.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because that's how we do it here, you know what I'm saying? It's like you're talking about outreach or oversight, or whatever.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We all look out for each other's houses, you know what I'm saying? Not only our own, they look at ours, I look at theirs, you know what I'm saying? Somebody comes around, it's… we don't… like, where I live, there's no crime.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because there's somebody in one of the houses here that will come out.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know? And say, hey, what are you doing here? You don't belong in this area, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But again, that's what we gotta get, is we gotta get to where we know each other, and we gotta trust each other. We gotta stop all of this, you know, accusing people of things and whatever.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We all can work together, Sybil, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I think one thing about, like, how Rocke also says about, you know, Clark County, mainly, because that's the biggest group that we have here, I think one thing that people also forgot is, one, to get to know each other, right? Actually know each other, two, spend time, and three.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Ask people what their talents are, and really focus on what they know and what their passion is. And I think that's what really has helped with the way
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Craig was also… How open he was, how calm he was, how,
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: there's no judging, you know what I mean? You can tell him anything, no matter where you came from, or who you are, what you are, what country you're from. It was… he was, like, the home, home for us. But he also was open where…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: he actually was interested in conversations, you know, do you have a family? Do you have children? You know, what do you like? So, and I think the way he spoke to all of us, it really kept us together, and we learned truly how to…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I mean, once a month, we try, you know, Rocky tries to have all of us together and actually have dinner together, and eat, and… because, you know, eating together is very meaningful, and we just learn who we are, what we are, what's new, what do you need help with.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: And if somebody needs help, we all jump in. It's not just, ugh, you know, it's another thing. No, we actually talk and help, or find out what we can do and move forward. And I think that's one thing that, you know, especially Clark County has, is the people. You know, we have very…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: we have great, talented people that are very passionate about, you know, protecting us, and I think that's the main thing that Craig has taught us.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So you've been around a minute if you're talking about Craig like that.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, you…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I was, yeah.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: A lot more quiet.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: She is. It's, what I do, Luis, is you'll see in the pictures in the document I give you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: is at least once a month or so, I'll actually put on a dinner for everybody.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that they could…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: everybody come and mingle, because when you're breaking bread with each other is the way I look at it, you get to know people better, because when you're sitting down eating, and you're talking to the people next to you, or in the room.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You tend to get more closer to people when you're… when you're sitting down with dinner or whatever, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, I try to do that at least once a month, and then in between that, I try to do, like, at a library or something like that, and it's getting the people together. The people want to be together, they want to see who they're talking to, who they're working with, you know what I'm saying? It's like,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If I'm going to be on a committee, say, like, the banking committee, who else is on the committee? Can I talk to them face-to-face? Can I see them? Can I actually talk to them and get to know them, right? Because we're working together, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think that makes your counties, your towns, all that stronger.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: When you're actually, you know.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: We're not afraid to have discussions. We honestly are not afraid, and even if somebody, you know,
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: don't agree, we talk about why we don't agree, or how we feel that, or sometimes, you know, we do have to say, well, you know, unfortunately, that's a topic that should be in the future, not right now, and I… and I… Rocky, I think Rocky feels the same way, like, we're not afraid to have discussions, and… but yet we have discussions respectfully, you know,
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: And I think, like we talk about, you know, like, one thing that I do like that Lisa says is, like, you know, we're not a club, you know, we're not a club, we're a government. Like, we gotta make sure that we are always professional, you know, we're, and we are. You know, of course, when we eat together and all that, yeah, we have fun, we talk, it's family, the children, all that, but there's also, there's time to play, and there's time to work.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: And I think most of us are really good with
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: when we're eating together, it's all family, eating, fun, but then yet, when we have to discuss things, then we're back to work, and we have a pretty good understanding. But again, it comes because we are…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: eating together, we spend time together, we call each other, you know, if somebody knows something's wrong, we reach out, and I think that's the closeness that has helped us a lot. I mean, I'm Nike County, but I'm always around Clark County, you know, because I work in Clark County, so I got to know all the people because
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I make an effort to be in that county and Clark County.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: But, you know, Craig was the main guy, and he's the one that truly invited everyone and showed us, by staying calm.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: and talking, talking it out, how far we can get, and I think this is proof of, you know, how strong we are, how close we are, how tight we are. I think Park County really shows, I think, shows it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, the whole thing with building any government, you know, that we're doing, whatever, we first gotta remember we're family.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean, it's… you know, one of the things I tell Louise in the meeting, because sometimes people bring up race and all that kind of stuff, and here's what I tell them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I tell them, because we're all in the room together, right? And I tell them, you look around in the room. Do we all look alike? No, we don't.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So why should I hate you for the glasses you're wearing, the color of your skin, or whatever? I shouldn't, because why should I let somebody else tell me what I should think about you?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, you know, I was taught this as a kid, that we didn't have… you know, race and all that didn't mean nothing to us. We look in your heart, right? And all the people in there, you get to know them, whatever, they're like brothers and sisters to you. Doesn't matter what they look like, we don't… none of us look alike, unless you're a twin.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: advocacy.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We should learn to respect each other, you know, talk to each other, you know, if you can't talk to each other, you're not going to get anything done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Hmm, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's… you know, and I kept that going even with what Craig did, with all the meetings I do, whatever. That's why I try to get people together. You know, I pay for all the meetings and all the food and everything, so I can get them together, because I believe that we need to get that connection.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, when you all having your, family get-togethers.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Nye County, Clark County, do you all have other counties represented there?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Whoever wants to come.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I mean, do you know who it is?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Where'd the other counties coming?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, I even have some people come from Utah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It don't matter to me. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we're all here to learn, and to work together, and to build something, you know what I'm saying? It's all a training, all… everything that you're doing when you get people together, you're all learning. And if I can bring training to everybody, I don't care it is what county you're from, what state you're from.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Where are you at? It doesn't matter, because we all should be working together, right? That's the way I look at it. So I really don't care, but normally we do have multiple.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah. The only hard part is Night County, Clark County are so large.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: So all the other counties, the smaller ones, are all north, you know, while the bigger one's on the bottom, so it's kind of tough to have the other counties come, but, you know, they do come sometimes from the north also, so it's nice to get
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: to know them, because you can finally put a face, you know, with their voice, or, you know, seeing them. But Nat County and Clark County are really large on the south, so everything else is above us.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I think the other counties were minimum 3-4 hours away, I think, or more, so that's kind of a tough part for them to come with us, but also online, we have people from the north being on our online meetings.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Normally, too, when I do the in-person, I do it in person and online, so they can still see what we're doing and talking to each other and, you know what I'm saying? So they feel like they're part of the whole part, too, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, did you develop a Union State, website?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: What's… where is that at? Show it to me.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's the Nevada Assembly, or the Nevada, Union State, gov.lan.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I built it on your documents.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: out of Union State.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: gov.lan.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Not going…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The Nevada Union State.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Nope.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: gov.lam.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Nevada, Union State, National Jurisdiction. State.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I built that based on your documents from the model county. And I also have the Clark County one, and I have a Nye County one.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, you…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: As we're going, we're building All of the counties and the Union states.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Still works for your station.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's it? Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, you can build it out a little bit. I see the Nevada state line over here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I started… if you click on… a lot of the buttons work at the top.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, at the top.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, if you do, like, drill assembly, it'll list you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, that one's not finished.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: not finished.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Just click on the back, okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Self-covering?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, that goes over, you know, different.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's the education?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, educational parts.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We're trying to, you know, we haven't worked on it in a while, because we're trying to build all this other stuff. You notice our logo.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, that went through a bunch of stuff because Sue and them really complained that
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I was using their logo.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we created our own logo.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So you redesigned it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: for the Union State. So what we're trying to do is umbrella…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You better spell this right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: your cup?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But to get the unincorporated spell right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, I… yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Tamara keeps telling me, but I keep missing certain ones.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yes, I know, I'm already texting!
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But that's public notices, and then you go to the calendar.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That would… this is the… the actual Union State calendar.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, that one's not working now?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: get it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No radiating.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I need to go back and… what happened was, is they shut my URL down.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: My original one?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I had to rebuild everything, so I haven't had time, because I'm trying to get the LRO up and running.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: rule. Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, it's… basically, if you take this here, the NevadaunionStategov.land, and you put LRO.That in front of it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, Bella Rollins, what is it?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You go to LRO dot…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And hit enter.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's our LRO.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay. It's got the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: E-Verify, it's got members, the official side, creating your account.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is all working. We're actually putting members in now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, if you click on Verify Member, that one…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: by member, this one.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then click on enter here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: in there.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then scroll down.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: put just, like, RO in that?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: R-O…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, RO for my last name, and then hit submit.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hit submit.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I click on the submit button?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, I've been messing with it. Oh, there it goes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I finna say. Oh, you got all R-O-R-O…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, anything with RO in it, even your first name.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, R-O for Aaron?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, it lists all the people that are in it right now, and if you click on one of the names, like, click on my name.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it'll take you to me, and it'll all… all my documents, if you scroll down.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you click on one of the documents, it'll actually show it to you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you can just go back, but you can see all the documents, everything. Everything's… it's working now, 100%.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But… This is one… this is what I created.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I actually wrote this in 8 months.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: with all the problems I've had… been having.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: going on?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: What the beautiful challenges.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, the… you see your cap… your tagline, the Nevada Assembly Unincorporated LRO? You better make that Nevada…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Union State Assembly.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Hmm…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Where's that?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: any… right… right here at the Nevada…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, it's an event.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, wherever you have the Nevada Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's going to be a question.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: If you're infringing on the national jurisdiction.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So always be mindful of how you word that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I know I've been going through fixing all those, it's just…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This has been a lot of work.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: We're doing it.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I know, I've been trying to get rid of the word done about assembly out of everything. Yeah. Just because…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The complaints that we're getting?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, it's confusing. Still, we don't… we gotta, yeah, we gotta clear up the confusion.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, the way… the way… because, like, we've been talking to you just here about actually communicating with each other.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Anytime somebody actually comes up and says, hey, Rocky.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: this is… needs to be not the Nevada Assembly, needs to say the Union State.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I go through and fix it, when I'm told, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that we stop the confusions, right? But again, if you're not talking to each other, you can't do that, right? And that's the whole point of getting people together and getting them talking, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So that somebody sees something, can say something, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then… and we need to take it, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's like, I tell everybody in the assembly, I don't care what it is, even if I don't like it, tell me.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it… The deal is, is if I don't like it, that's me.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I can fix me?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But I can't fix you not getting your answers correct, you know, said to somebody, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we need to talk, otherwise, you know, you just boil it up, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it becomes an issue.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's the ideal of getting everybody together so we can talk.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And we can talk things out, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, I think this part right here, the Nevada Union State is the unincorporated government serving the national land and soil jurisdiction of Nevada. A state of the Union put appeared right there, and don't even say on Nevada.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yep, they're gonna… it's like…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: there's a separation there that we don't need to make that separation, because it's causing a confusion. Nevada is the State of the Union.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So don't say Nevada again.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I see what I'm saying.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: tomorrow… tomorrow we'll write all these things down. She's… she's.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: I'm already, yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Jamar, are you a, are you a, international coordinator, or…
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: State co-coordinator.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: For the… for your State Assembly? The… wait a minute. Union State? International State Assembly?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Same as Sue.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, you… okay, you're a co-coordinator with SUIT. Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And, Rocky, you are a… what? You are a…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, I'm everything coordinator.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So you're at…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: a co-coordinator with Sioux and a union state coordinator?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I just select not, because me and Anna had a big discussion, and to stop the confusion, whatever, I stepped away from… to let Sue handle everything in the state, and I would handle anything Union, State, and down.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because of jur… you know, split the jurisdictions up.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, and we might have to start saying international, state, and national state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, that's what I started trying to do, too, and a lot of stuff I do.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: using those. That's why you see in my logo.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, national juice.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: fixing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, and I was trying to decide what would… what… because we need to make this paradigm shift with these logos, or seals, or whatever they're called. Would it be best to say national jurisdiction, and then there's international jurisdiction, or would it be best to say land and soil jurisd.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's what Anna told me that we should be doing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: National jurisdiction and international jurisdiction?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because the Union State is national, but the Union State is a… It's like…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: you know, it's like when you go, like, the president, he's supposed to do, talk about the Union State or whatever, right? It's actually a part of the government, it's not really a… it's like the assembly part, whatever. It's not really…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: their jurisdiction. Their jurisdiction is national jurisdiction, or international, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And that's what she was saying, to stop the confusion, she goes, Rocky, why don't you use national jurisdiction, and Sue can use international jurisdiction, and that way you know your… what you're doing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's why I tried to split things up.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And what do you think about, then, the county assemblies? Show me what a… give me a county assembly you did.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: How did you do that?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But, it's the Clark County assembly, gov.land.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And what is she saying about that one?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, no, it's not that. Hang on.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Clark County Assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's been a while since I looked at those.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because I'm, Tennessee was asking me how to do that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It looks almost the same as the.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Hang on.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: the Clark.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: They all look the same, just so we have it up, and then slowly we can start changing as we're getting information.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's the Clark County, Nevada, gov.land.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because you told me not to abbreviate anything either, so…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, the Clark County, Nevada Assembly. So we… you're going with soil jurisdiction. Right. Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And if you… if you change Clark to Nye, then the Nye County one comes up, so it kind of looks the same.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, while we're trying to… I'm trying to do all the counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay. It's… basically, there's kind of the same. The only difference here is if you go… scroll back up.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And go to public offices?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Public officials?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Officials.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, public officials, you click on, like, coordinator.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: coordinates.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is our public view of all the positions, the people.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And, oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And you can put pictures and whatever on it. So each one of those actually has all of our people in each one of them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? This one's coordinator, so if you hit the buck back.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So… Hit the back button, you say?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: See right here where it's in blue?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, yes, back to main page.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And if you click on Public Officials, and then you can go to Recording Secretaries.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: These are all the recording secretaries we have right now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, and it's got their email so people can email them, that kind of stuff. So we… we're trying to build a welcome letter and stuff, and then build it on this website so people can go find who they need to talk to.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: After we get our public elections done, then those people will be in each one of these offices, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, are these people on Clark County?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: These are all Clark County.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Boom.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, and again, we're gonna do, like, the rest of them. Like, if you do public officials, there's… you can see all the different ones. We've got the sheriff, the undersheriff, just of the Peace Corner.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those are all our public… Things that we're voting in right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. And then we also built out a public website.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There's a confusion here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: here on Public Official.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: What's that?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: There's a… there's a confusion here on public official, so our… So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Public officials generally are those who's elected to some public office, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So now, I'm like, so is coordinator and a recording secretary for public official, or not?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, they're not.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we… that's why I said it's… we started building out what we had, and then, you know, trying to get this website based on what we did in the model county, to come up with some kind of, starting point, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then from there, we can build on Miss…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: tells you about, you know, the assembly and all that. So, we got a lot of stuff.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, you better get this out of there. Back to the Nevada Assembly.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah. Don't change that.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I gotta change that stuff.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Camera, better get that out of there.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Back to the Nevada… well, no, back to the Clark County Assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Clark County Assembly, yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, did you, clone your websites?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Kind of, yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All… everything on my website, I hand-wrote. I didn't… it's not from anybody else.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: My website's… I'm a developer.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: and trade.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I've been doing it for 40 years.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, all of the… when you told me what you wanted, whatever, this… all these websites here look the same on your phone, too.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you… if you pull it up on your phone, if you… it's like, if you squash the screen down, you'll watch a change of sights.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because it's made to be able to run on your phone, on a tablet, or on a desktop.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Everything gets reorganized as it gets smaller, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I wrote all of this stuff, and now I have another guy helping me now. His name is Paul.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we're… almost got our court, website done, and we have our public website done.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Now, when you say the public website, where's… what's that?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's like if you have a newspaper, and you.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Where's that?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh? You just… if you go back to the Union State one.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: He's day one.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then, instead of LRO, put public in front of it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Take out the LRO and put public.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: ugly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, I gotta take out the stuff in the… at the end.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All the way up until land.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Backspace until LAN.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There we go.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Public Community Bulletin.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we can… we're gonna start posting our election stuff on here and all that. That actually took you back, so you have to do the back. Right now, it's just that one page.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I went somewhere, I don't know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Go back, yeah, do the back button twice.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: One more time? There you go.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The menus at the top are merged with the other one.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay,
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But it's… everything in the middle of here is… basically, when we do the ex parte mulliken to the government, whatever, we're gonna send them this link to this website, showing them where all of our public stuff is going to be posted.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And in our court, if you change public to courts.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That'll take you to our court's website.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Seth, we've been doing a lot of work.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We've been busy.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: ports.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, quartz.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: There you go.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So this is all of our… this is the public side of the courts, where you can see the cases, the ones that can be seen by people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: This is just right now, the test of it. We're not completed 100%.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But we're getting there.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, yeah, y'all been busy. Busy, busy.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Good, so…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, going forward.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You want to go over what I have here so far. I don't see your link in here. You said you put your document in the chat.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Hang on here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So I can grab it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So we can.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's in here… wait, oh, there it went, there it went.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I didn't push on to submit it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You see it now?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: No.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I don't.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I see it at the top, where it says everyone.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Everyone.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Why don't I see it?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Let me see, chat.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Want me to try it again?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, try it again.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I see mine up there, you see mine up there?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: my inner…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, it says Luis, whatever.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Now, what's that? It's telling me, huh? Wait…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm… Mine says, meeting with Rocky, everyone, new chat.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Hang on a minute here.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Do a copy here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Copy.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Ace.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It tells me… Oh, it cannot, because it's currently in use.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh, yeah, you have it open on your computer.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Oh, is that what it is?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yep, that's what mine was, too. I had to close it first before I could send it to you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Now let me try again. Oh, there we go.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So what… I think what we can do is take a… take this next week, I see it now, take this next week and go over both of the documents here, and then.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Email… e…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Email each other back.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, do you… do you want to do…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Kind of a weekly thing, or just kind of by ear, or…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, let's do a weekly thing. We don't have to meet every week, but.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: At least just emailing updates and all that?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, email updates and ideas of what you're coming up with, and then we'll… we can meet, like, once a month or something to revamp any ideas that we actually have to show each other, or kind of maybe bounce off each other.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay. And other than that, we just do emails and stuff?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, cause we… I know we got enough meetings.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I know. Everybody I know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: God.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Go.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, meetings almost every day, it's a scary.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because I'm gonna start this Union State meeting now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, if you all want to be part of… I know you do.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: uni-State Initiative.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, Louise, anything that you do, I'll want to be a part of.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Another meeting we finna about to have.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's just… however I can help, especially everybody else, the other counties, the other states.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'm willing to help if I can, you know, if I got the time, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think whatever we build off on this, we can use in that meeting.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's the, that's the plan.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it actually goes…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'm seeing how I'm building on it. I'm not… I mean, it's gotta all fit together. We're not just doing stuff. It's just building towards something. Even like the Resurgence Post Report. The reason I did that last one the way I did it, so that I can be ready for this Union State initiative.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: to start reconstructing the whole Union state is what the conversation was before I stopped model county meetings. Right. I was building toward this.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think, especially if you do the Union State meeting and have other counties and states involved.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That we'll be able to…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: build this guidebook, I think, a little bit better. We'll get ideals from other people, too.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then we can actually discuss the problems in the meeting. Your… our…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: ideals or… or perspective of things, you know what I'm saying?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And see what other people think, too, about what they've heard, or…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: how they think it should be or not, you know what I'm saying?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I mean, it's…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because right now, what Anna's doing is… she's now…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: almost trying to… I don't know if she's trying… she's almost, like, sabotaging herself.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: she gets, you know, because people keep asking the same old questions. Instead of having something she needs to say, well, go look here, you know what I mean? Or go look at this. You know, I thought that's what the task should have been, or whatever, but it's not, and she then, you know, one week she'll say one thing, and the next week she'll say it different, you know what I mean?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And I think…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think that's confusing a lot of people now.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Because they… she just needs to send them to do the work. Right. There's just… there's so much…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: It's not knowledge, it's just they keep asking the same questions.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I… the questions I asked, it's just like this last Thursday. I asked about the baby deeds.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And Lisa, she jumps in and says, you know, and even Anna says… well, Anna says… because we asked if we could have the mother and father both on the same deed.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And she goes, well, that's the way it always was. And I said, well, that's not the one we have. And then Lisa pops up and says, it's on TASA that way. Well, we've looked on TASA everywhere, and it's not that way on TASA. It's just one name.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's one parent, that… claims the baby.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Oh.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So we're gonna change it now to where we have 2.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? You can have both the mother and father, so we can do one deed.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Because on the LRO that I created, I have a place to… it actually generates the baby deed for you, and also the marriage deeds, and there's a place then to upload them on the LRO.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, on ours, we have… It's like, if you have…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: 5 kids, you put all 5 kids in, go…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Generate the baby deeds, it'll generate 5 baby deeds at one time, and you print them out, go sign them all, and upload them all.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's literally that fast. It does…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It takes what's on the LROL and merges it into the documents, and creates all of the deeds for you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So all you have to do is sign them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They're already stamped and everything. Even the 928s, it's like you fill out, there's…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You fill out their… their normal information.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like, their member information, their contact information, and then the fields on, like, if it's a he, her, that kind of stuff.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Go down, and you'll print the documents, and it prints the whole 928s already filled out.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Do you just sign them?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We're far advanced than a lot of people think, so…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Wow.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's just, you know, once you print them all out, you basically create a PDF out of it, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Of all the 928s, you just print them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Then you go to the people and have them sign on the recording sector signs them all, and then you, then…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, scan them all back in, into the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: LRO, and then you got all the documents here.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's really about that pass. You know, the long… what takes the longest is getting them to sign them all.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Let me ask you, so this is another aspect I wanted to put in the, the guidebook, is all the different ways that you can actually publish and record.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: In your county, can you take your 928s to your county recorder's office and record them?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, we can't record anything in de facto.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yes, you can!
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They won't let us, but don't get…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, that's why I'm asking. Will they…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They won't let you.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's why we're doing what we did. That's… you know, Anna told me probably a year ago, that all the states need to have their own LRO and all that stuff.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Amazing.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And how they were going away, so I started building it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: and this is what I came up with. You know, it mimics the… The one that Terry did?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: current one. It mimics a lot of, like, how it works. The only… the last piece I have is, as soon as I can buy a credential printer, I'll start printing credential cards, too.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, I mean, we're… we're gonna be a self-deal government, you know?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, can your, your, your LRO, then, is a state LRO, not a county, county, county recording office?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I can have 3 types of recording secretaries. I can have an international recording secretary, I can have a state recording secretary, or I can have a county recording secretary.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And the system limits you to what kind of recording secretary you are.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So if you're a Nye County Recording Secretary, you would only be able to record people from Nye County.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you're a state one, you can do anybody, and then Nevada State.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Or, even right now, if you're in Arizona.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You can record from Arizona, too.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If you're international.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So what did Anna say about that?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: She… I asked her if I can host other states with her, and she said yes.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I don't want to. I'd rather just give them the software.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: All the stuff that I wrote, whatever, if they have the hardware, I'll give them the software.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I have no issues with I'm not gonna charge anything for it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I wrote it all myself.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I said, and I… we had the last meeting, I asked everybody.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: If they were okay of giving the software to other states, whatever, and they said okay. They wrote, they don't care.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, the only thing they said is they don't want us to host other states.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: can, but they just don't want to. They don't want the…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: They want it private. Ours private, they want theirs private. You know what I'm saying?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I understand that. You know, you start having issues, maybe, with
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: People play in from one state to the other, or whatever, you know, looking through data, which they maybe shouldn't.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know what I mean? So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: So, do you… so, is yours considered an international LRO, a national LRO, or what type of LRO is it… the nature of yours?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The way I made it is… is all the states could be in it at one time.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So it's international, I guess.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But I've limited it to the recording secretaries to be only Nevada right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay? There are only two people that can do international, and that's me and Aaron.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The rest of people can only do their state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: We have 7 recording secretaries right now.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So, the other 5 can only do Nevada.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But me and Aaron could do any state. I…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And the way the software works, too, is, like, if you pick a state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It'll actually list you all the counties, so you just pick it.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So it actually knows all the counties from every state. That's why I know there's so many counties, because I keyed them all.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: For it to, you know…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I'm not done with the East Coast yet, so…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's a lot. I mean, I've got them all the way to Mississippi.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: From the West Coast?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, all the way up to Mississippi. All the states and counties.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's a lot.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It was developed to be the same as what Terry did.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But when I build something, I don't like Key-in errors?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So a lot of the stuff I have in there, like I'm telling you, like, you pick a state.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And it lists the counties, and you just pick them, so you're not keying it, so you don't key.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Yeah, yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The same thing as if you do, like, Nevadan.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Ohioan.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: it has a list of all those two. So when you're picking your nationality, you just pick it. You don't type it in.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So I'm doing that with everything, because I want it to be more consistent and accurate.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: right? That's good.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah. So… But, like I said, if…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I've had several states already, they're looking at getting hardware. I will give them the software. I'll help them install it.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: But…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But you got, you, and then Georgia is offering to do the same thing, and I know Lisa Nim got one.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I know they're helping, you know, offering theirs to other states.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I think, you know, the least way I look at it is we gotta get our state, our gov… our United States up and running.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And I think we need to help each other. I don't care where you're from, you know?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, as if we can help in some way, and…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, it's not costing you really anything. Why not help?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You know what I mean?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I just don't… I think we need to get the United States up and running.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Whatever it takes, right?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's… that's gonna take that outreach, that's what it's gonna take.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yep. Outreach. What? He's gone? Yes.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Get out there and tell the people.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like, your resurgence stuff and a lot of that stuff, you know, I've been sharing it with a lot of people, because I believe we need to get it out there.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Mmm.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Get everybody knowing.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Okay, well, I'm getting ready to go to bed.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Earlier for you guys, but… It's almost going on 11 for me.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: It's late for you, yeah.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hmm. Yeah.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Thank you so much!
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I'll look through your stuff, we'll get back in touch with, you know, whatever. Me and tomorrow, we do a lot of documents together.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: So…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I want you all to go through the… let's spend this week going through the outline of, is this the flow
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Of the steps of how to guide the people through
Louise Campbell-Anthony: establishing their government on their counties and… on their towns and counties. Is that the flow?
Louise Campbell-Anthony: And then we'll start filling in, you know, look it over, I'll look it over again.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Huh.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: look at what you have, and see if I get any sparks of inspiration, and we'll just text back, this is the good flow, okay?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: In mine, I did the pillar thing, but I think we need to take it out.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We're gonna go with committees. Well, we're gonna have… we're not gonna use the word pillar. Right. We're just gonna have a General Assembly.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Let's call them… let's call them standing committees.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Standing committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: I mean…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: We have other committees that you can create ad hoc.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And then you have, yeah, just the regular… just a normal committee.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: But…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: The reason to use standing committees, those are the ones that are year-round.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Year-round.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: And we may want to word it different or something, but…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Hello.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: That's the wording that I came up with with Lisa and Anna and everything. They're talking about that there are certain… they keep saying there's certain standing committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You just froze?
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: It's time for her to go, it's too late for her.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: That's go.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I was saying, on the county, is standing committees even necessary? Because the county works year-round anyway.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Can't hear me?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Yeah.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: weekend.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Did you hear me? The county works year-round anyway. Do we even need to say standing committees?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Well, your General Assembly for the county would not, right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Certain things like that.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, that's the General Assembly. General Assembly is separate from the committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right. But normally, your standing committees
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: You know, like, your sheriff, courts, those things, they're year-round, those really… Whatever, you know.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Those are just… those are their… like, your list that you gave, I would consider all those standing committees.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right? Because those are gonna be working year-round, pretty much.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Beautiful.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right?
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It just… we need to come up with a word. It doesn't need to be standing committees, but…
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Maybe, like, permanent, or…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Well, no, I just think committees is fine, just when we start and have an ad hoc committee, it's an ad hoc committee. We just decided we're gonna create this committee for this particular task, and then it's gonna be gone.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You know, but on a county, you're always working. It's not…
Louise Campbell-Anthony: You're always all the time standing, because you're always.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Right.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: I'm working.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: No, that's true. And the state really isn't.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Right, they're not.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: It's only when the counties want something, then they're gonna… then the state will go for them.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay, well, we're gonna let you go, because it's late for you.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Alright.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Thank you all, too. I'll talk to you all later.
Rockie Roper Coordinator Nevada: Okay.
Tamara Amaral Coordinator Nevada: Good night!
Louise Campbell-Anthony: Good night.